Cult definition

What makes a cult different from a religion?

Cult definition

Postby Teresita on Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:05 am

When people get together to talk about religion, too often the word "cult" is tossed around as a pejorative to mean any religious movement they don't like. Never mind that Catholicism has been around for 2,000 years and has over 1 billion adherents, it's called a cult by people whose own particular religion was started in 1984 and might claim a total of 75 adherents. What is sorely lacking is an objective standard by which we can identify something as a cult.

The crucial moment for any new religious movement is the death of its founder. If the movement was centered around one strong figure merely to allow him to exercise power over the men and get sexual favors from the women, then it most likely will shatter upon that leader's death. If there is at least a core of truth in the movement, it will survive the death of its leader, such as the lynching of Mormon founder Joseph Smith, and perhaps rally around another one, such as Brigham Young, who led an LDS remnant from Missouri to Utah.

So we can define a cult as simply any new religious movement whose founder has not died. And by death, we're not talking about those close calls in the operating room where the heart stops for a few moments, we're talking about someone who is whipped to within an inch of His life, nailed to a cross all day, then buried in the ground over the weekend. So right away, historical Christianity is not a cult because Christ has died.

Overcomer Ministries in South Carolina, however, is a cult because founder R.G. Stair has not died (going to jail doesn't count). Jehovah Witnesses are not a cult because Charles Taze Russell, who founded the movement in 1877, died long ago. Calvary Chapel is a cult because Pope Chuck Smith has not died, but the Worldwide Church of God is not a cult because Herbert W. Armstrong has died.
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Re: Cult definition

Postby Mikster on Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:18 am

What is a cult?

In my opinion, a cult is an ideological movement in which the members are, to varying degrees, prevented from thinking thoughts which run counter to the core ideology, and encouraged to think thoughts that are in line with the core ideology. Cults use techniques such as isolation from family, friends, support structures, information sources, etc. which don't align with the core ideology, the control of food, water, shelter, social contact, etc. such that its quality and/or access are provisional upon recognized adherence to the core ideology, the induction of altered states of consciousness (generally with concomitant increased susceptibility to suggestion), and other techniques besides. Cult members are made to see the cult as being their loved one / family / tribe, and those outside the cult as being "other."

Note that my definition doesn't mention anything about religion. A cult can be centered around any ideological structure, not just a religious one.

I don't think making the living / dead status of the founder the key defining characteristic is a particularly useful one.

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Re: Cult definition

Postby Grog on Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:08 am

Mikster, your definition immediately made me think of the freshmen dorms that I was an RA in. :)
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Re: Cult definition

Postby jrcagle on Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:49 pm

So right away, historical Christianity is not a cult because Christ has died.


Or *is* a cult because He is alive? Hmm...
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Re: Cult definition

Postby osarusan on Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:10 am

There actually are some very thorough definitions of "cult" that accurately cover institutions like the Watchtower Organization and the Church of Scientology. Leaving it up to whether the leader is alive or dead is a bit too simplistic, in my book.
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